My take on anal sex
I have this theory that there are 3 types of girls when it comes to anal sex. The first type wants nothing to do with it. She is kinda boring, but probably pretty smart and ok to hang out with. Maybe she is a friend of your girlfriend or a lesbian but as long as she is not a bitch she is probably pretty cool. This is the type of woman that you want to be friends with. Reason being is that she probably has a lot of female friends. Girls are always attracted to these types of chicks as friends because they feel like they can tell them their problems and these girls won’t stab them in the back and take their boyfriends. Girls are always suspicious of their friends stealing their men and girls who are totally opposed to anal are probably not super hot.
Type 2 is totally into ass fucking and does not like to have sex with out you at least sticking your finger in her ass. She can usually have orgasms through penetration alone. She definitely has tattoos and maybe a racing flag above her ass. When you are done banging her she tells you to take a victory lap. That is your cue to fuck her in the ass. This actually happened to a friend of mine. Unless you are drunk it is probably best to stay away from these types of chicks. Sure they are fun to party with, but you would never be able to take her home to meet your folks and trust me if you started dating her she would turn out to be a fucking psycho. These chicks have fucked every dude in town, but that does not stop them from getting insanely jealous, especially in public. Stay away. Unless you are hammered. I mean “hey ya only live once.â€
Then there is the third type. Basically this is your ideal mate anyway. She is smart and funny. Not overly sexual, but when you are alone she does not get embarrassed about stupid shit. Even if she has not had anal sex before it does not really matter. She likes you enough to trust that you will not hurt her. Plus even if she says she has not done it before, there is no point in believing her. She might have had the high school football team pull an intercontinental rectal train on her when she was sixteen. No big deal though. You are an adult right? Jealousy is stupid. So anyway after you guys talk about it and she agrees to do it then she is passed the test. It does not have to be great. That is not the point. The point is trust and honesty. As long as you both want it then everything should be fine. This is the type of girl that you should actually date.
Shoot me an e mail if you have any questions. Especially dudes. I am here to help.
Comment by makeupgirl [Member] — 07/10/05 @ 11:43
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Comment by urbanchick [Member] — 07/11/05 @ 23:17
Comment by Shivanni [Member] — 07/11/05 @ 23:53
As for your psychoanalysis of this hypothetical girl, again, it comes down to trust issues. First of all, "the slightest bit hesitant" doesn't sound like a trusting relationship. Neither does the scenario you describe, of one partner wanting it despite the others misgivings. And this ficticious scenario of "her partner feeding her bullshit." ...what you are describing sounds like an abusive relationship,, in which misgivings abound, the exact wrong situation in which to start experimenting with anal sex. It would make it hard to trust that anyone could enjoy the act of submission in any circumstance.
And don't kid yourself about the female empowerment angle, lots of guys enjoy the act of submission too, both gay and straight.
I don't mean to keep rambling on about this, but I am responding to your anger and bitterness Shivani. Where does it come from?
Comment by urbanchick [Member] — 07/12/05 @ 01:18
2. Some women who prefer to not have anal sex are still a great bang in bed.
3. Women who do not prefer anal sex should not be manipulated into thinking that anal sex equals closeness with partner.
4. I think that women who dislike the act but do it anyways to achieve closeness to a partner are in fact women who possibly are prone to enter into abusive relationships.
5. I disagree that anal sex is performed on a trust basis - not true ,people have casual anal sex all the time.
Look..basically thats my opinion. I think that given the demographics of the site there are still people (esp) women who read this that may not be as experienced as others.(or men who may view this and use it as a guilt tactic) I just think that spreading the message that even if you don't enjoy anal sex, if you do it, it's telling your partner that you trust them and surrender to them is b.s -and even if you dont like anal sex , the anticipation of pleasing your lover will drive you crazy- that Im sorry is the wrong message.
I thnk it is safer to say, if anal sex is something you dont enjoy, then dont do it. If a man cannot respect you or trust you or surrender to you because he cant stick his dick up your ass then maybe thats not the right guy for you. Im confused- are you a guy or a dildo recruiter?
Comment by Shivanni [Member] — 07/12/05 @ 09:48
Sounds angry and bitter to me.
Let me deal with this on a point by point basis:
I - I never said that all women do, or should enjoy anal sex.
2 - I said nothing about how a good a lay a girl not into anal is.
3- You can't seem to get past this issue of manipulation. There was nothing to say the other partner was pushing for it, or that their feelings were the same as the ones I described, or that there was any manipulation going on at all. You seem to have invented this scenario in your head of an abusive man, and a weak woman. If this is the only paradigm in which you see anal sex working, no wonder you are so opposed to it.
4 - If that was the only reason they did something they didn't want to, then, yes, that sounds desperate, and I clarified that in an earlier post. I said it could bring you closer, not it would. The result is entirely dependent on 1) your comfort level (regardless of trust) and 2) how the decision to proceed was reached. If it's a mutual decision between two consenting adults, what business is it of yours?
5 - I have also already pointed out that there are people who enjoy it on a casual basis, that's Jed's type 2. (remeber the original post?)
You have every right to your opinion, and you have a right to express it, as I have a right to express mine. If you choose to attack me because of it, go ahead, but there is no need to be insulting, or rude.
Comment by urbanchick [Member] — 07/12/05 @ 10:44
"There is a type of woman that hates anal sex, not because she hasn't tried it, but because it hurts! This type of woman will not have sex with just anyone, she is very discriminating, but also very free and open....If you reach a level of trust in your relationship with her, she will love the feeling of surrending completely to you, and when she does, the pain goes away, and she will beg you for more. Not as a 'victory lap', but as foreplay, as an act of complete submission.." "Of course, she'll still hate anal sex, but the idea of it, and the anticipation will drive her crazy."
See that sounds off to me..but like you say its your opinion and we differ greatly.. I apologise for the passion...toy..pedler remark but Id like to say for the record that if anal sex hurts, and you dont like it...ya dont have to do it.. I dont think it will bring you any closer to anybody...and the only thing to anticipate is walking around for t he next hour or more feeling like you got a load of you know what stuck up your you know where ...Ok so Im through with this anal thing...check your local drug store for sale listings on K Y Jelly...and please as much as you trust your partner .. please use a condom!
Comment by Shivanni [Member] — 07/12/05 @ 14:59
To address urbanchick's "...but I'd like to find out how many of them have tried it with a man they truly trust completely...," how can a girl ever REALLY trust someone completely when they have tried this and it really fucking HURT?
Not many guys even know the proper way to do it without inflicting pain, so forget about the trust thing. No matter how much you love or trust someone it's still pain and unless a girl's into masochism and gets off on the pain, any man who wants to continue deliberately inflicting pain on his woman as a means of bringing them closer is clearly a sadist and should find himself a nice submissive gal who's actually into it.
Otherwise, I recommend the girl feeling the pain get herself a nice strap-on and show him what it feels like, as a man is actually the one more likely to get a good orgasm out of it by having his prostate stimulated.
Assuming, of course, the girl banging him in the ass has actually done some research into the proper way to have anal sex and isn't just improperly pounding away as many guys do, not realizing the anus is not self-lubricating like a vagina.
Comment by Euphoria [Member] — 07/12/05 @ 16:11
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Comment by shari [Visitor] — 07/12/05 @ 19:16
Shari
"men often tell women what they want to hear so that they can get women to do things, especially things they dont particular care to do."
um, wow.
I put forward one womans position, and I am accused of saying there are no manipulative men?
"Urban chick thinks its a subliminal experience" no I don't.
I think it can be a rewarding submissive one, not that it is. Or that it is in any way subliminal. How would that work, he slips it in while you're asleep?
"Whats the difference in a mans booty and a ladys booty anyways"
This is actually a good point. I would like to ask a lot of straight guys that are into anal with women what exactly they think the difference is.
Euphoria
Otherwise, I recommend the girl feeling the pain get herself a nice strap-on and show him what it feels like.
Yes, and there are those of both sexes that like that.
Not many guys even know the proper way to do it without inflicting pain, so forget about the trust thing. No matter how much you love or trust someone it's still pain and unless a girl's into masochism and gets off on the pain, any man who wants to continue deliberately inflicting pain on his woman as a means of bringing them closer is clearly a sadist and should find himself a nice submissive gal who's actually into it.
This is all salient stuff, and I don't disagree with any of it...well, except "forget about trust" The fact that it hurt when you tried it before with othersmeans it requires a significant amount of trust to try it again.
I've tried cocaine three times. It took me that long to be sure I really didn't like it. But I didn't get the cocaine from just anybody, I would only try it if I got it from someone I trusted.
Shivani
Now before I get accused of encouraging everyone to go get fucked in the ass, I'm just saying if you're going to try it, try it with someone you trust. Who knew that would be such an unpopular opinion?
I have been discussing the use of anal sex by two people in a committed, trusting relationship to enhance said relationship. I put this forward as one possiblity.
You seem completely unable to accept that a sex act (or at least this sex act) can be anything other than casual or abusive, not just for you, but for everybody else. That's fine. That's your position, and you have every right to it.
But if my position is the downward camel...
Comment by urbanchick [Member] — 07/12/05 @ 22:55
Bottoms up!
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Comment by lastfree [Visitor] — 07/13/05 @ 03:04
And I think some of you need to read Paulo Coehlo's "Eleven Minutes" it talks a lot about S&M but he's a respectable writer so you can still read it in public!
Comment by VivaciousVixen [Member] — 07/13/05 @ 03:33
lastfree on role playing...the deal with not being able to understand submissiveness is because my personality or preferred role is very dominant. Even with everyday life I am extremely dominant. I work in a male dominated field where I assume a leadership position so getting fucked up the butt is not my thing and I think its because Im not about submitting. Oral sex the same...Now before the barrage of attacks and
anal ysis :) Oral sex on a guy is something that I would do but not my favorite thing in the world. I mean getting fucked in the throat does nothing for me... while I understand guys like it. ( i understand that they too have their G spots there like we do which is much pleasureable with a tongue..) Ill also venture to say ejaculation in the mouth is out of the question, I have great tits for that purpoose. SO for the record whats in it for everyone else? Maybe I m missing something. I get nothing out of it .. I could like read a book and do it or my fav. watch who wants to be a millionaire and do it. On a positive note: I have been told that I do have a talented tongue, I've also heard I was great and I've even had -"I love you" Sex is not so much a big deal for me, I enjoy it, I know Im good at it (I cant get them to leave for the life of me) but I do enjoy a great burger also, I do enjoy intimacy and romance..Before I have sex with a guy and we do all the romance and fun stuff its all cool, I'm sprung but after I have sex with them I just have absolutely no respect for them...which is why I totally understand guys who do one night stands and never calls the girl back the next morning. Thats me. Im like that. Dont cuddle with me, dont talk as a matter of fact Ijust turn up my sterio really loud and proceed to doing something else.. Now before we start with I have commitment issues - I have been a relationship with the same guy for well over 5 years so thats not the case. Sex is about power( I dont know about the love thing nor am I interested) I think you get what you want out of it and then hope to shake hands. Im not one of those Ive been hurt before people so dont go that route as a mattr of fact I am great friends with the people I have been with and I have not been hurt by any of them.. so analyze me.( against my better judgement)
Comment by Shivanni [Member] — 07/13/05 @ 12:37
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Comment by lastfree [Visitor] — 07/13/05 @ 13:56
ok ..I agree that the original post was a hasty generalization yet stimulating conversation (which is why Im sitting in my office with a pile of invoices on my desk yet more interested in human sex behavior..
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Comment by Nix [Member] — 07/13/05 @ 19:11
I'm kidding. Some great points have been made here, and more importantly, we've all gotten a glimpse into the minds of people with radically different outlooks than our own.
It's all good.
Comment by urbanchick [Member] — 07/13/05 @ 22:55
Anal sex is a matter of trust? I can't imagine wanting to spend time alone in a room with someone I don't trust, let alone with my clothes off and orifices exposed to that person!
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Comment by Linzalicious [Member] — 07/14/05 @ 19:34
So I would say........ Why fucking not! Try something new. Try the toys first. You will be surprised. Most adult shops should be able to point you in the right direction. Start small it's okay.
Don't forget that YES YOU CAN CONTRACT DISEASES THROUGH THE BUTTHOLE SO USE PROTECTION EVERY TIME AND DON'T FORGET THE LUBE!!!!!!!!!
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Comment by mayanmade24 [Member] — 07/18/05 @ 00:16
anyways the point of the column was to initiate discussion which it did.
see the whole point is we're going to hire a woman to write her own column where she can call me a pig or ignore me all together.
of course i don't know everything about women. first off i'm a dude. secondly the column is supposed to be kinda funny and not taken so seriously. being a guy who has dated a lot of women i do have my own feelings on certain things. i wouldn't expect 30 women to agree with me on my ideas. that's why ten years from now i will hopefully be divorcing one of you. and no i will not be taking women's study classes in the meantime.
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